Russell Simmons Actually Stands Up In The Name Of Hip-Hop. While St Louis Radio Puts It's Foot Down Against Offensive Lyrics!!
Posted on April 23, 2007 11:24 PM
Hot damn look what a little persuasion can do? The main page on SoHH.com posted a story on Russell Simmons and The Hip-Hop Summit Action Network urging the recording industry and media outlets to censor misogynistic lyrics and racist terms from future recordings.
I got say to that I am very surprised at how swiftly the industry has swooped down on the culture as a whole.
While I still feel we have along way to go. It’s good to see the writing on the wall. Let’s see if Russell’s recommendation has any effect.
St Louis radio has also put the smackdown on offensive lyrics by stating the following:
St. Louis Based company Roberts Broadcasting Company has anounced that it will remove any and all “offensive” content from its hip hop radio station WRBJ-FM/Hot 97.7. The company is setting up a staff that will sort through all music submitted to the radio station and anything thing they find as being offensive will be tossed.“We’re going to ban them altogether, which is a hard move for a hip-hop station. If it’s offensive in any way toward women, toward African-Americans, it’s not going to be played on Hot 97.7.” said Keesha Dhaene, a spokesperson for Roberts.
I can see a profound shift taking place in music, and it's about time! Though hip-hop is in dire straights at the moment let’s take it back to when it was all good. I got some classic video for y'all to watch.
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Comments
I'm kinda torn on this. On one hand, you've got people actually interested in changing the culture for the better, whatever that REALLY means.
On the other hand, it's really just censorship. Honestly, do ya'll really think that toning down the mature content is going to fix the low musical quality?
No, a newer, cleaner, perhaps even more Pop-like version of commercial rap will probably rise to replace the old. I somehow think that it's not just going to be racially insensitive language that is going to get the axe here, and something also tells me that people like MIMS will still be able to tell us why they're apparently so god damn 'hot' without having to resort to misogyny or racism.
Basically, it's just gonna get a lot harder out here for the hardcore artists.
Pretty much everybody recognizes Biggie Smalls as a great Hip Hop artist, but if he were to have dropped Ready To Die under these new guidelines, Juicy would be the only song suitable for the radio. Which actually makes sense, the content guidelines were sometimes a little bit more strict in the early 90s then later on, which is part of why he had a single like Juicy at all.
However, think about all of Big's amazing, if not violent, raunchy and misogynist lyrics. If you think about it, you probably have a couple favorite Biggie lines you wouldn't wanna repeat in front of your grandma, but that's because you know there's a time and place for everything.
My question is this: Would we be so willing to accept, even applaud these new guidelines that these knee-jerk-reaction politicians and celebrities are calling for if the music being censored were some of our favorite Hip Hop classics?
The whole thing seems to be a knee jerk reaction, maybe a needed reaction, I’m not sure …. But I don’t see it lasting too long, the topic is in the spotlight so people are going to run with it in order to push their own agendas… Most Hip Hop getting mainstream love is pretty much pop orientated so I don’t think this will bring the end of the one-hit wonders or the rebirth of classic Hip Hop, in fact we will probably see more corny radio targeted joints all over the radio & TV now… Personally, I think there is a time and place for all types of songs & artists…. The idea of banning music just doesn’t sit well with me. Again, I cant help but feel this is just another push by your Government via the recording industry to stunt the multi-billion dollar Hip Hop industry that they just can’t seem to control or extract considerable funds from. Also, do we hear anything about other forms of misogynistic/violent/racial music being censored? Too much propaganda makes it hard to think…
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Great Idea!
Horrible Idea! At the same time?
Hell yes.
This is gonna make alot of rappers step their game up.
This is gonna make alot of rappers step their game down.
So I guess we need a rapper to buy a radio station now just to get any type of real rotation.
Wow ... they're going to ban misogynistic hip hop in Atlanta ... you know what that means ... 'Chicken Noodle Soup' on replay 24/7 ...
This is the beginning of the end......We have been duped once again into taking peoples freedom of speech away.....Its not the words that are said, its the message that is coming across! They can say all the crap they want, but it once the music gets to be about making that money and who has the biggest diamonds, it takes away from the real message. censoring what words come out of a rappers mouth isnt the problem, take away the commercialism and materialism in the music! Once again they (the man) is tricking us into fighting the wrong battle
If it’s offensive in any way toward women, toward African-Americans, it’s not going to be played on Hot 97.7.” said Keesha Dhaene, a spokesperson for Roberts......Thats all great, but you still condoning bullshit ass music? Dont say nigga or bitch, but make sure to plug that new bentley, or the brand new Jacob watch? The coorperations owne our ass!
thats not a st. louis station
XM radio and Serius Satelite Radio are seriously about to come up more than ever! Buy stock.
Rizzop,
You make a good a$$ point.
This may separate the real rappers from the fake one..The real M.C's will adapt with the times and still make sum hot shit,the fake ones will go back to selling out the trunk..Maybe this will make dudes step they game up and stop tellin broads to drop,n shake it on every song
I personally think that anyone that is even thinking about changing anything about our culture based on what some racist 60yr old white guy says should know that they are being played like pinoccio! You mean to tell me that some racist says something degrading and then blames hip hop music-which he doesn't listen to- and you guys run out to change what it is we do??? Yeah some people may feel disrespected by some things we say but if thats the case go listen to soft rock or something. Us out here in the streets will always spit our environment and anyone who don't like it can come write that check to come change it but to censor us from our own music that we created in the first place??? nah dis is for us by us!
Posted by: mr. stlouis at April 24, 2007 8:03 AM
Tighting up folk that is the company that owns the station. I know Micheal Roberts and he owns over 17% of St. Louis. In regards to the topic it's pass time for something new. I mean lets elevate our minds and go higher. The fact of the matter is what growth w/o change? Its like the sky w/o rain. Similar to life w/o pain. In the words of 2pac " Proud to be black but why do we act like We don't love oursleves Don't look around busta (you sucka)
Check yourselves know what if means to be black whether a man or girl
we're still struggling in this White man's world. It's not them knocking us off its us knocking us off".
Black folk so stupid. Duped by whitey again it seems. Imus fucks up, and hip hop gets censored. 1st amendment taken. Let's hope bitch, and nigga are banned on TV too. Oh that's right, you can still say it on TV. Just watch FX any night. That show Nip/Tuck is CRAZY AS HELL. Too fucked up to watch.
This is kind of a slick move by Russel, Because if you read the details about their recommendation, it states that the edited versions that play on radio and video should remove all of those words. THE EDITED VERSIONS HAVE ALREADY REMOVED THOSE WORDS. Which is a good way to make the hiphop haters feel like a compromise was made. Which is good so maybe Al Sharpton can move on to real issues affecting our communities like poverty, and education. You can trust that Russel can't and wouldn't censor hiphop artists from saying what they want to say.
WEREN'T ALL THOSE WORDS ALREADY BANNED AND BLEEPED OUT ON THE RADIO EDITS!
ARE THOSE SAME WORDS GOING TO BE REMOVED FROM TV
CAUSE THEY SAY THEM TOO
THE ONLY CURSE WORDS YOU CAN'T SAY ON TV NOW IS FUCK,DICK, PUSSY & CUNT
SHT ASS NIGGER HO AND BITCH ARE ALL ON TV
ALL THIS MEANS IS ARTIST WILL DO A BETTER JOB ON RADIO THEIR EDITS
SO WHATS THE POINT NOTHINGS CHANGED
RUSSELL JUST FOLLOWED SUIT CAUSE THE RADIO STATION PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN
AND THE ONLY REASONS THE RADIO STATIONS ARE BACKING OFF IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO GET BOYCOTTED AND LOSE MONEY FROM SPONSORS.
This doesn't change sht
people need to read the gawd damn constiturion before spouting off "freedom of speech is being taken from us".
These dudes is still allowed to say whatever they waqnt to say on records in the street where ever without beuing put in prison, thats the definition freedom of speech.
The radio station can chose not to air their words because the radio station is private, so it can make its own choice and by banning certain things they are actually exercising their own freedom of speech.
The mic's are owned and paid for by the radio station.
the rappers can still make their wack records, and you can still go out and get them off of I-Tunes, limewire or whatever.
and this lesson kids was in the difference between protected speech and a freee market.
I wish cate wiould stop spouting this corny line all the time.
secondly, and I think this is good news, if cats are forced to actually step their game up and find concepts and be creative again then how can that be bad for the game? Do we really need another MIMS or "walk it out" song?
If this forces cats to step up then the end game is that the weaker cats that are eating right now will be forced out the game.
thats good.
people need to read the gawd damn constiturion before spouting off "freedom of speech is being taken from us".
These dudes is still allowed to say whatever they waqnt to say on records in the street where ever without beuing put in prison, thats the definition freedom of speech.
The radio station can chose not to air their words because the radio station is private, so it can make its own choice and by banning certain things they are actually exercising their own freedom of speech.
The mic's are owned and paid for by the radio station.
the rappers can still make their wack records, and you can still go out and get them off of I-Tunes, limewire or whatever.
and this lesson kids was in the difference between protected speech and a freee market.
I wish cate wiould stop spouting this corny line all the time.
secondly, and I think this is good news, if cats are forced to actually step their game up and find concepts and be creative again then how can that be bad for the game? Do we really need another MIMS or "walk it out" song?
If this forces cats to step up then the end game is that the weaker cats that are eating right now will be forced out the game.
thats good.
people need to read the gawd damn constiturion before spouting off "freedom of speech is being taken from us".
These dudes is still allowed to say whatever they waqnt to say on records in the street where ever without beuing put in prison, thats the definition freedom of speech.
The radio station can chose not to air their words because the radio station is private, so it can make its own choice and by banning certain things they are actually exercising their own freedom of speech.
The mic's are owned and paid for by the radio station.
the rappers can still make their wack records, and you can still go out and get them off of I-Tunes, limewire or whatever.
and this lesson kids was in the difference between protected speech and a freee market.
I wish cate wiould stop spouting this corny line all the time.
secondly, and I think this is good news, if cats are forced to actually step their game up and find concepts and be creative again then how can that be bad for the game? Do we really need another MIMS or "walk it out" song?
If this forces cats to step up then the end game is that the weaker cats that are eating right now will be forced out the game.
thats good.
people need to read the gawd damn constitution before spouting off "freedom of speech is being taken from us".
These dudes is still allowed to say whatever they want to say on records or in the street or where ever without fear of being put in prison for what they say, thats the definition freedom of speech.
The radio station likewise can chose to air their words without being shutdown or not air their words because the radio station is private, so it can make its own choice of what content it airs, and by banning certain things or words that they want to portray or be broadcast from the giant over the air speakerbox they pay for they are actually exercising their own freedom of speech.
The mic's and playback equipment and broadcast equipment is owned and paid for by the radio station. It's a free market. If their listeners tune out they lose add dollars and they are shut down. Their choice. If their listeners demand change and they do it and they get more listeners they might gain add dollars. Either ways its a free market place.
the banned rappers can still make their wack records, and you can still go out and get them off of I-Tunes, limewire or whatever.
and this lesson kids was in the difference between protected speech and a freee market.
I wish cats would stop spouting this corny line all the time.
secondly, and I think this is good news, if cats are forced to actually step their game up and find concepts and be creative again then how can that be bad for the game? Do we really need another MIMS or "walk it out" song?
If this forces cats to step up then the end game is that the weaker cats that are eating right now will be forced out the game.
thats good.
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This does not have any effect on the content they put on their albums. This simply states what we already know. You can not use these words on radio versions of songs. Russell just trying to keep the peace until he can unassociate himself with hip hop.
Dyslexic, you are truly dyslexic. Did you even read the whold article? Russell wants those words banned FROM FUTURE RECORDINGS. Not just editing them for the radio, but banned altogether. I know exactly what free speech is and it is being taken away if they forbid these words from FUTURE RECORDINGS.
Dumbass.
all this shit is doin is clearin the way for someone with really vulgar lyrics like Plies to come thru and supply the demand for this type of music and he goin blow da fuck up.
Props to Russ for tryin to defend hip hop.
again dog, the RIAA is a private org of record companies. They can censor what the F%^$ they want to. They are private, They are not the government - so the argument of free speech is a stupid one. Again, read the constitution before trying to play the role of a dime store Che Guevera.
This is all fine and dandy, but unless and until the underlying attitudes, images and messages implied or portrayed change, nothing will really change. The only thing that will really change this is for people to refuse to listen to or buy all the "disposable" (c)rap music and for Hip Hop to return to its roots in the spoken word, the art of story-telling, and the use of real DJ's or maybe even live music such as what Mojoe and Bavu Blakes provide.
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Damn, this nigga really is dyslexic. Cant even fuckin read posts. Im not gonna argue with an illiterate, it's not even fair. RIAA cant make artists stop cursing anyway. GTFOH. Russell got bamboozled by Harpo and whitey.
Those words are supposed to be censored on the radio anyway, so what's the big deal. Why folks want props for doing what they are SUPPOSED to do is beyond me.
HERE WE GO AGAIN ny AND ALL UP NORTH FOLK ALWAYS GOT SOMETHING TO SAY ABOUT THE SOUTH I BET YOU LIVE DOWN HERE HATER. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS LISTEN TO OUR OWN MUSIC (LIKE WE DO NOW) AND YALL LISTEN TO YALL OWN I BET YALL WOULDN’T GO WOOD CAUSE YALL BROKE.. WE BOOTLEG AND STILL OUT SELL YALL CLOSED MINDED CATS AND GOD DON’T LIKE UGLY HIP-DASH – HOP AINT DEAD THAT BICH MOVED DOWN SOUTH
@Big Crash
did you wear a helmet when you crashed, apparently not dog.
again, what he is saying is that the clean version be removed from radio station archives and playlists for even alluding (look that up dummy) to certain words, or if the dirty version has it.
Did I say that the RIAA was going to try and stop making dudes curse, no clown I didn't, because they can't fool because they are not the government and they dont have a prison cell to lock artists up in if they do curse.
All this means is that vulgar artists will have to release their unimaginitive smut on indie labels that arent controlled by the RIAA cartel. Its called free market. If the indie labels make a crap load of $$$$$ money then you can bet that RIAA will suddenly lose their soul again and go back to status quo whitch is inevitable anyway so this whole episode is no more than a dog and pony show for Russell and others to look like they arent the whore$ that they are, but I digress.
I said that RIAA has a right not to release, promote or air the shyt they dont want to and as a private org that is their right. some (including you) said it was against free speech, 1st amendment blah blah. It isn't.
I corrected you and some other stupid illiterate fools that need to actually read their civics class books instead of using them to roll blunts on.
and now the realness comes out of you in repsonse, can't talk without blaming "whitey" and callin me "nicca".
Its not hard to see why my talk with you has fallen on deaf ears. You are practically a walking talking billboard of the stereotypical coon jiggaboo dumb azz that the media gives the mic to to represent us in dialogue shows and on the news and this is why the rest of the world laughs their ass of at us the African American, the most gifted yet willfully uneduacted group of people to ever be born.
Heres a hint crash helmet dummy, if you think you are clever, read your posts in preview before posting them and i am sure that you overinflated opinion of yourself will change rapidly.
idiots.
All that text clown ass foll and you aint said shit. Foll I said that shit aint supposed to be on the radio PERIOD. So why should rush get props for doing what he was supposed to do? Young ass kid, I've forgotten more than your ass has learned. Like the saying goes "a thimble full of knowledge in the hands of a fool is a dnagerous thing. Did you dyslexic ass read the article? Fucking retard. He's another fool that missed reading comprehension class in 4th grade. Simp. SOHH type this shit backwards so this dyslexic fool can understand it. lame ass.GTFOH
@Crashed brains
I can see that text intimidates you.
All that typing and fluff and still have yet to explain how the "1st amendment taken" (your words above)? How was it taken away, or is it being proposed to be? I don't need a comp class to read those words that you stupidly wrote and are now trying like hell to spin away from. Face it dog, your a fuxxing idiot. The 1st amendment aint got shyt to do with this. So back to what I was saying. Wipe the weed crumbs off of that civics book, blow the dust off of it and read it, or if you can't read big words yet, have someone else who can read it for you and explai nthe first ammendment to the constitution fo the United States. The document as written by "whitey" that allows us to make music that claims selling coke to our mothers and turning them into whores is protected speech. That document.
your previous posts are full of jumbled up syntax, spelling errors, and incomprehensible incoherent babble. But what I can make out is that you seem to think all of our problems can be blamed on "The Man". You know that secret little troll underthe bridge that appears whyen its time to study for a test and tells you blow some dope instead, and the one that tells you that violence is better skill to learn than academics or trades. You know "the man". The one that abstains you of any and all responsibility because all of our/your problems are his fault.
Listen dawg, you have been owned.
another saying you may like "It's better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you're an idiot than open it and confirm that you are one".
In your case confirmed
Owned? lmao. You spend too much time in front of the cpu. What did you own?
Your a fool for buying into this crap. This is just something for the election year to get blacks fight each other, as always, and split the vote so whitey can keep the status quo. I see you're nothing more than a brainwashed house nigga. Yes massa, what ever you say mass. GTFOH.
Here's one for you dyslexic clown.
Arguing on the internet with someone you cant hear or see is like running in the Special Olympics,
Even if you win you're still a retard. Chew on that. Silly ass. LMAO.
house nicca?
yeah cuz I use my brain and facts I guess that makes me white? another myth that white people fed us and are glad we sr\tay true to.
whos the house nicca, the one who wont read and educate himself like Malcolm told us to do, or the ignorant fool that is fighting the enemy with bad information.
What vote is gonna be split fool? African Americans vote dem cuzzin, at almost a 90% clip. We aint never voted for nothing else.
If you think that pointing out that you are wrong about freedom of speech and the first ammedment, (which is a fact you are wrong) makes me an uncle Tom then you are one sad sad sorry mutherfuxxer.
Ru$$ell SimmonS is a whore, so is the RIAA but they dont control the 1st ammendment dummy.
GET IT YET.
as for politics, I can only hope you didn't hurt yourself trying to think up this next paranoid theory.
Fact of the matter is all politicians are crooked. Period. Dem Repub, all of them.
If you think our vote is anything more than window dressing then you are not only dumb but naive too, which wouldnt surprise me.
You need to do yourself a favor my brother. Go learn the theory of "dynamic tension" and then look at the history of racist America, then look at the history of Africa (civil wars etc.)
The black man is the strongest and most gifted mond and body on this earth, If the black man wanted to take over the planet today, we could.
The only problem is ignorant fools like yourself make up 80% of our mentally blind population.
with fantasies like yours about "the man" and "whitey". It aint breakin news that America racist dog.
that aint the problem.
the problem is us and our refusal to change shyt ourselves.
this bullshyt you have spewed today is an example.
free your mind or be the coon, or field slave they want you to be.
"house n1gg@"
LOL, yeah OK
It really makes no sense when you listen to the edited version of hip hop songs it's not like you can't figure out what is being said. Then in some instances the editing is so bad that you can still hear what they were bleeping out. The bottom line is that Hip Hop is out of hand. The artist have no moral values and it shows in there lyrical content. Anyone can write a song about do this bitch and watch this ho I got this car and these diamonds. They have no creativity at all lyrically. That is why most of these artist free style game is so weak they don't have creative minds. If they don't want to be censored they should move all hip hop stations to satellite radio and then they can say what ever they want too with no censorship issues.
This nigga dyslexick still typing? Nigga leave that shit alone. Aint nobody trying to hear tha bullshit you talking, esp on this site. You wasting your time dude. Why dont you set up a march or some shit like that.
Yall so called black righteous, wannabee intelligent niggas make me laugh...
sippo, dog I aint no million man march n1gg@ at all dawg, just trying to keep it real.
Nobody's perfect ... but Dyslexick came wit' it, too strong.
As for those who feel the need to 'spit the environment' on record, no rule says your art has to get you paid, let alone rich. We'll move forward, and you will join that ever-present segment of society: the starving artists. True.
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