Hip-Hop Is In Desperate Need Of A Change!!!!
Posted on April 18, 2007 3:12 AM
I’ve been seriously thinking about this Don Imus situation. I’ve been mulling over the notion of talking about it, because I for one don’t agree with Imus being fired.
As a young African-American male in today’s society, I get called worse things by own people then “nappy headed hoe”. And though being addressed as niccas has never personally bothered me, I can understand how non black people feel that they can disrespect us, or try to be inclusive in our constant disrespect for one another.
How can I as a black man stand up on my soapbox and chastise non African-Americans for using misogynistic, racist, and often times deplorable remarks that we as a community use on a daily basis?
The argument that many of us make like “We can use it because we know nicca doesn’t mean the same thing as nigger” or “We have turned these negative words into something positive within our own community” no longer holds any weight as far as I’m concerned. Because people from outside the African-American community obviously feel that since they purchase hip-hop music, and have embraced the hip-hop culture that they have a right to use the language no matter how offense. Look at Matt Herbz!
As a people it’s our responsibly to assess the damage we have done to our children, our woman, and most importantly—ourselves and hold us accountable first, not them!
And it’s also time for hip-hop to challenge itself and attempt to make more socially conscious music that can still have us bumping our head to the beat. Kanye West does it, Andre 3000 definitely does it. It’s time for us all to stop supporting artists who are being socially irresponsible. If we choose not to check ourselves, then we need to shut the hell up when we sell it to Middle America and they start to take part in the negativity.
Let’s start with Atlanta rapper DC Yola. When asked to do a freestlye on the Cipha Sound Effect look what at where he immediately goes.
Is this what we call talent now a days?
The bottom line is that we ALL have to take responsiblity for what we say and what we do. We have to own our words and our actions. And if we are going to go after people like Don Imus for making his racist comment(s), then we need to go after rappers like Snoop Dogg for walking women on leashes on national television down a red carpet. We can no longer be one sided!!!!!!
Think about it people! We cant deny that we are in SERIOUS need of a change!!!!
Talk to ya lata,
--SoHH Gyant
Comments
dat dude Yola sounds corny
FIRST!!!!!
Aint he get shot in the face?
he killed it imo, shouldnt hate
GYANT REALLY KNOWS TO TAKE CREDIT FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S WORK
LMAO NIGGA U COPIED THIS SHYT FROM MY HOMEGURLZ BLOG
@ Gyant
IMUS was fired for the LAST STRAW =TOTAL of ALL his RACIST, SEXIST, HOMO etc...RESEARCH YOURSELF
NOT the one comment "( Nappy headed HO ) looking like the have bullet wounds an knife wounds. "
( GET THE ENTIRE QUITE. )
Media outlets are NOT doing THERE OWN
research.
GOT to CBS website/ MSNNBC LOOK it up
You weak in FACTS an weakere on opinion ....
SO HOW CAN YOU COME TO A CONCLUSION WHEN YOU HAVENT DONE THE RESEARCH.
Journalist ?, writer ?, Blogger ?.
atleast say you dont know..
YOU DONT EVEN HAVE AN INFORMED OPINION
HIPHOP
DG YOLA freestylin what he know about
crack rap is OLD...Violence, Sex , Dope ...AINT GOING KNOW WHERE..as long as HUMAN BEINGS populate this earth.
Dont hate the player hate the game.
Get out in your Community to CHANGE the ILLS OF SOCIETY..NIGGAS DONT SLING CRACK BECAUSE ITS FUN...If that kind on money could be mande doing something else it would be DONE.
Da Great Yola
Listen to the lyrics without the music
( I aint gon let up ).
Zone 4 Ben Hill
ATTIC CREW
in a rush SPELLCHECK
SPELL CHECK
GYANT UR GAYNESS IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE APPARENT
I'm cosigning Gyant on this one. Whites and Asians are getting a real bad case of the "Me Too's" when it comes to using the "N" word. And I do believe it's partly because of what we're selling to them. They want to be us so they're starting sound like us. Think about it.
the last time i checked we had choices in this great country we can either listen to what we want or not listen to what we want, we can watch what we want or not watch it, we can go to work or not go to work.the point im making is i don;t want to see the same music,movies.or tv shows looking or sounding alike.diversity makes the world go round.
Everybody can't do everything...You don't gotta like it or understand it but deal with it...Just because someone is doing something doesn't mean you can too.
Aren't u the same one who be prasin some of these artists talking about how hot their music is ?? Now u sayin Hip Hop need a change ?? C'mon bruh
While I do agree that things need to switch up, people aren't stupid. They know when they are saying something disrespectful. Imus called the girls ho's! I know of no one that thinks its okay to just go around calling anyone, especially people that you dont' know, a ho. Imus used hip hop as a cop out. His back was against the wall and he said the first thing that came to his mind. Unfortunately, people heard hip hop and ran with it. People are acting like context DOESN'T matter. A word is not always the same word when used again.
Gyant you seem to just be jumping on the bandwagon here. This stuff has been going on for a while, one white man calls some girls (nappy headed) hos and now people want to say lets clean up our act. GTFOH!
YEAH THAT BITCH LIVE DOWN SOUTH!!!!!!
1 BYCHES
yeah change is necessary...this cat makin us look like porch monkeyz...its not about where your from its where ur headed
Claps to GYANT for telling the truth
The reality though is as a people
We aren't willing to be confronted about our own sht.
As you can see your already getting people here tryin to justify bullsht
No one wants to own up to that fact that the shts wrong. The attitude is this is the status quo and who are you to tell us we need to change. It been like this and that the way it is.
The ironic thing is slavery and civil rights was the status quo and that was the same sht white America was saying to us. Its been like this and thats the way it is. The only difference is now we're doing it to ourselves. We're complicating the issue not white america
they're pointing out the contradiction. And we look like unintelligent azzholes trying to justify bullsht! All because we refuse to admit we're wrong. Its time to stop tryin to save face. The contradiction is why this issue keeps coming up.
Now white america is pretty much sayin fk the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons they're a bunch of Hypocrites. Go ahead Imus say what you want, we got your back all these hip hop artist and black people do is contradict themselves. And their ignoring all arguments we have cause they feel we have no credibility. Why cause we are contradicting ourselves, we just won't man up and fking admit it.
So Gyant your gonna take heat
but this is why but what your saying is the truth people just don't wanna hear it.
First off the reason we can criticize ourselves or make what some perceive as negative comments about ourselves is because we're all in the same boat... we know what its like to be in our shoes.
I can't criticize a woman because I'm a man but I can criticize myself. That’s the difference, we can't talk about a subject we don't know anything about and can't claim to know what its like to be in someone else shoes.
Hip Hop says a lot of things that offend people but hip-hop is not supported by advertisements by corporate sponsors, you have to willingly purchase this music and willingly listen to it. A show like Don Imus is free to the public and paid for by corporate sponsors. The hip-hop you hear on the radio may be totally different from what the unedited cd is. Words are edited and sometimes changed completely to be radio friendly. Even Wal-Mart refuses to carry any music with content advisory stickers.
This comparison to hip hop is completely unwarranted. I don't even like the radio versions of Nas' "Hip Hop is Dead" or Ludacris' "Slap" because when you listen to the song its clear that the "killing" spoken of is symbolic in the same way that "Hip Hop" is not a literal person and even though this couldn't be more obvious these artists obey the rules and censor themselves by changing their lyrics to be radio-friendly. So don't compare hip-hop to Imus because censoring himself is exactly what he HAS NOT done.
There is still a lot of good music out here but these record labels only think about songs that can make a quick dolla in the club. Hip Hop has so much more to offer to the industry. I strongly believe and hope that one day things will change for the better.
@ GYANT WE SHOULD HAVE YOU FIRED FOR THIS SHIT!!!
ARE YOU SERIOUS???
I know for a fact that you have seen me post on here damn near everyday for the past few months and you know how I feel about racism being from Alabama... The fact that you are a Blogger does mean much at this point to me...
I am in full support of anyone being held accountable for their actions, and NOW Imus is being held accountable, have you ever had a white person say something disrespectful to your face??? Probably not you are what 6'8, they will wait and say it behind your back, I didn't expect you to take a particular side in this issue but since you did let me check YOU!!! You played ball I balled for 8 years and I've won Championships (Str8 UP) So tell me how woulld you feel if you lost the National Womens Championship and then get called "Nappy Head Hos" or go home and see a "JOURNALIST" call you a nigger or a bunch of thugs just playing basketball... 1st off Rutgers has accomplished more this year than they have ever accomplished as far as sports and athletics go, and to have all that overshadowed by one person, that s not right and I dont care if you are white, black, or green ITS NOT RIGHT!!! Rutgers is a very Prestigous school and they are one of the best schools in the nation as far as academics so these young women ain't dummies they are our little sisters and nieces, I personally have a little sister graduating from Oral Roberts University on May 5th so I feel the arents and the Coach saying that this is degrading and deplorable...
Now is there a double standard YES!!!there always has been, but black people didn't complain about Imus his listeners did, it was two days later when the press got a hold of this story...
So please miss me with that bullshit
You get called worst by your own people??? Its probably because you agree with idiots like Don Imus and Michael Richards and Matt Herbz all them in the same category RACIST!!! I hate toseepeople go unsathed thru this type of media shit storm but these problems are 90% of the time brought on by yourself... I never heard of Don Imus and i'm suppoese to feel sympathy for this racist FUCK HIM!!! and the WHORE"S in his family and you too GYANT for agreeing with this a$$, I know you will come back and say I just said he shouldn't have been fired, but yes he should have if you use national media outlets like MSNBC and CBS online (Home of the Men's and Women's NCAA Final Four) This has nothing to do with being sensitive or anything like that because if you got on this blog talking crazy about white people they will fire your black a$$, and it will not be for all the shitty and old blogs you post either I gaurantee...
DJ OKTOBA IM TIRED OF THIS NON SENSE
S.W.A.T.S 73 you was on point with that folk. SOHH Midget you are really terrible. I am trying to give you a chance, but plain and simple you suck. You don't do your research and your arguments are weak as we toilet tissue. You on your little soapbox saying that you can see how other races can feel that they can say n!gg@ just because we say in music and you bring up Kanye and Andre 3000(in no way am I trying to condemn either). They say n!gga and hoe too, albeit way less than most rappers. Do your research. We have no unity because of bootlicking uncle toms like you. Stop tryin to please your white masters punk and be a man. The man was wrong and that type of oppressive behavior and thinking is what leads to us being viewed negatively and being help back. We need unity. You are no different than an Al Sharpton or Jason Whitlock. You sit up on your soapbox and point the finger and you still aren't pointing out what the real problem is. The problem is LIFE is fukked up and until we make things better there will always be some form of rebellious expression, whether it be rock 'n' roll or hip hop. There are many ills in society that need to be corrected before addressing the music. How can we as a people get anywhere when the preacher is taking all our money and being schaufferred in a Bentley? We don't own any record labels. When is the last time you called out Jimmy Iovine or Doug Morris? Probably never. You wouldn't have the balls to do so in fear of your job.
NIGGAS DONT SLING CRACK BECAUSE ITS FUN...If that kind on money could be mande doing something else it would be DONE.
Posted by: S.W.A.T.S 73 at April 18, 2007 8:04 AM
That would be incorrect. They do sling because it is a fun way to make a living. It is a risky job, but totally effortless. Most drug dealer don't make a lot of money first of all and there are many ways to make that kind of money without a college degree. Get the degree and you can make even more money than a kingpin LEGALLY. The real problem is they actually believe they are too stupid to do it. I know this for a fact.
i agree in part with most of what you're saying. I don't agree with firing him based on his comment about the rutgers basketball team. As someone pointed out, he has frequently made racially insensitive remarks over the years, so why fire him now over this? The truth is, he was fired because his sponsors pulled out. So basically, we are leaving the door open for them to replace him with another "shock jock" that will eventually do the same thing, and as long as he doesn't loose sponsors, he'll stay on the air. Where I disagree is that, we cannot allow them, to place the blame back on us. Rap didn't make Imus say anything. I'm pretty sure Imus isn't riding around listening to 50 cent. Imus is a grown man and should take responsibility for his actions rather than pointing a finger at Hip Hop. Gyant what I think you are missing, is the media right now is using Hip Hop as a scape goat, and I guarantee that if it wasn't hip hop, it would be something else within our community that they would blame for THEM doing something wrong. Now is the time to support hip hop, rather than be divided in whether it's right or wrong.
@ Gyant thats a bunch of bullshit
Imus should have been fired for calling student athletes Nappy headed ho's I wrote some really long shit but it didn't post for some reason GYANT??? Yeah this is probably the worst place to support racism its not a good look... I just dont have the energy to retype all that shit
Yola sucked on that verse but I love that "I ain't gone let up, buts its about a year old
@ DJOKTOBA- How do you like my DNA in your mouth? you must love it cause you keep bringin me and my white niggaz up, dude we forgot about your 40 year old struggling DJ, Tango looking, ninja turtle ass.
Don't ever compare Don Imus to me! I've said it time and time again, i'm not a racist, me and my white niggaz have tons of black friends and friends from other cultures (just not indian or asian at the moment). We just grew up differently than most white people. I also don't critique the way rappers portray women in some lyrics as long as they keep it real to what they know. Rap is a way of expression and there shouldn't be limits to what you can or cannot say. Just because you think you're more sophisticated or intelligent than some of these rappers doesn't make it wrong for them to act how they act and say what they say, that's how they are. Shit, that's how I am. Fuck what you heard!
I Fucks with Yola.
WNM07
--Matt Herbz--
Posted by: Big Man at April 18, 2007 9:37 AM
I didn't agree with any of your views at first, but I just needed to remember how I thought when I was in the hood. I would drive through rich neighborhoods and think it was unfair that I was destined to never live like that. I really thought that way. The white man caused his distruction of our community long ago and it is still manifesting itself to this day, but currently they aren't actually holding us down. We (when I say we I mean underpriveledged black people) are holding ourselves down. Every child in the hood could go to school and college and change their life for the better, but many people in the hood, especially the men, don't even want to go to high school because they are brainwashed by their environment. Rappers are contributing to it because they get out, but continue to spread a message of distruction to the people who are still there instead of telling them about all the people they meat in the industry who are not artists, but people who went to school and are now writing their fat pay checks.
Uhh, Gyant....
DJ Oktoba 4 President just sonned u. ur readers are waiting for ur response.
@ Gyant and readers,
You know what-that's it. Fuck you Gyant, and fuck all the sohh.com readers! I'm fucking tired of this racist shit that gets put up on here. I must be too mature, old, hot and sexy for this shit. I feel like screaming right now- Aaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
Ok, I feel better. If anybody out there wants to get at me look me up on myspace. I'm a real thoroughbred nigga that won't hesitate to put someone in his place but people keep deleting my posts. I feel like yelling again "Aaaahhhhhhhhhhh!"
Fuck Matt Herbz, you know where to get at me, quit hiding behind your screen name and show me your face bitch!
DJ OKTOBA-SOHH TIRED OF THIS, BUT STILL CHILLIN!!
This is a real bandwagon blog, GYANT. I'm a regular lurker (occasionaly commentor) on this page, and you've consistently promoted garbage like DG Yola for months now. All of a sudden Imus-Gate happens putting hip hop in the crosshairs again and now you wanna say "hip hop needs a change?"
I personally agree with you on this point. But if you really feel hip hop needs a change, then be a part of that change. Stop "selling these artists to middle america." Stop promoting them altogether. Either that or hop off the bandwagon, muttaskutta!
I'm a real thoroughbred nigga that won't hesitate to put someone in his place but people keep deleting my posts.
DJ OKTOBA-SOHH TIRED OF THIS, BUT STILL CHILLIN!!
Posted by: DJ OKTOBA 4 PRESIDENT at April 18, 2007 9:54 AM
I'm not trying to call you out, but can you please explain to me in English what a thoroughbred nigga is? The way you phrase it sounds like an ad at a slave auction and I know that is not what you meant. Also what do you do to put people in their place and what do people do to require you to put them in their place? I'm really trying to understand you.
you can tell a real nigga from a fake a mile away for hating on yola like that. People talk and act like that because that is what they live everyday. if someone is stupid enough to imitate it trying to be funny and it comes off wrong,they deserve to get dealt with. Poverty, poor education, the baby mama epidemic, underage parenting, and failure to vote are some of the real important issues tearing up the community and you waste my blog time and say "maybe if we listen to kanye and andre3000,we can make a change". nigga please.
Just because the media hypes up Imus doesnt mean its important. if thats the case, then you already brainwashed. i know you got a little common sense because you dont let the word nigga affect you, but dont waste time on crap that doesnt matter, like this issue. And i pray to god you didnt copy and paste this crap. step your game up.
Is there a double standard?
I notice people like to say that there is a double standard here. That blacks can use the word nigga freely and whites are racist if they use it. I agree there is a double standard. But this double standard is not unwarranted. People would complain that the double standard is unfair. And that it is. I agree.
But if there is one thing that society has taught us it's the reality that life is not fair, especially so for blacks and minorities. Blacks have higher infant deaths & are more susceptible to illnesses, diseases, & other medical conditions. Like Jay-Z said, "Woman Lie, Men Lie, Number's Don't." The numbers prove these facts. So why is this the case? I'll tell you why. Direct results of the long-term effects of slavery. It's the honest truth. You think decades of eating animal parts that are suppossed to discarded doesn't have an effect on your families health? Blacks are also racially profiled & many historically poor, some were even purposely deprived of education by slave masters. Not to mention a host of other long-term effects. Now I ask you: Is that fair?
Of course not. The playing field is not level and probably never will be. We know this. We deal with. So deal with it. So stop whining about a little double standard. I think we earned it.
Anyone who can't see that we have sold our integrity and self respect through hiphop is ABSOLUTELY STUPID!!! Imus might have used Hiphop as a cop out but its a legitimate argument. We need to get out of denial and realize that we haven't come far enough or gained enough worldwide respect to have the power to set and enforce a double standard. It was only about a few decades ago that we were considered to only be 1/3 of a human. Come on and wake the fuck up y'all! We still don't have the same power, rights, respect, or opportunities as others. And the overwhelming negative aspects of Hiphop is exactly what people will focus on, remember, and will eventually reverse the efforts of our ancestors. Not enough of our people know and understand their history so they're misguided, uninformed, and are taking us back with the voluntary coonery and outright stupidity.
I Fucks with Yola.
WNM07
--Matt Herbz--
Posted by: Matt Herbz at April 18, 2007 9:44 AM
DC YOLA & Matt Herbz = The Stallionaires
Uhh, Gyant....
DJ Oktoba 4 President just sonned u. ur readers are waiting for ur response.
Posted by: bobby drake at April 18, 2007 9:48 AM
@Bobby Drake
The only person waiting for my response is your cheer leading ass.
Anyone who can't see that we have sold our integrity and self respect through hiphop is ABSOLUTELY STUPID!!! Imus might have used Hiphop as a cop out but its a legitimate argument. We need to get out of denial and realize that we haven't come far enough or gained enough worldwide respect to have the power to set and enforce a double standard. It was only about a few decades ago that we were considered to only be 1/3 of a human. Come on and wake the fuck up y'all! We still don't have the same power, rights, respect, or opportunities as others. And the overwhelming negative aspects of Hiphop is exactly what people will focus on, remember, and will eventually reverse the efforts of our ancestors. Not enough of our people know and understand their history so they're misguided, uninformed, and are taking us back with the voluntary coonery and outright stupidity.
Posted by: OPEN-YA-EYES at April 18, 2007 10:14 AM
Co-sign and well written
WACK SHIT LIKE THAT COMING OUT OF ATLANTA IS MAKING HIP HOP WEAK. DAMM WITH YALL ONE HIT WONDERS. LOL LOL LOL
Hip Hop and media needs to change in general. Now at day even on television shows you have comedians on supposed family shows saying words like dam, bitch and other derogatory terms. Hip Hop is not to blame every time, it is the coporate industry that creates a lane that rewards as well as ecourages not only Hip Hop artists to create entertainment and music that is based on sterotypical racism and sexism /violence. Coparate pays these artist to express ideas that are conter productive to our youth, women, minoriteis and people in general.
The problem also stems from people not paying close attention to what the hell their CHILDREN are listening to and watching on television. Rating systems are not enough feeble minded individuals and children need guidance. The problem is we have allowed the corporate conglomerates to brainwash sterotypical ideas or race and gender that represent the racist, misogynistic and demeening syerotypes about us and buy ubti these ideas by purchasing the Music and entertainment products that are look at and listen to day and night.
Hillbilly Jim + his sister= Verne Troyer
Hillbilly Jim + Marietta= Stomped the fuck out.
wnm07
Fuck you Sohh Gyant
Looka Herre bruh, real tawk shawty dats what we do down herre in da souf. We be sippin & dippin in dem old skool slabs with da butter fly doors with da candy paint. Real tawk u get you one of dem & you's da shit. We live in our old skool slabs cause we can't afford flood insurance. Real twak shawty we don't wanna herre no corny raps from no Mos Def ass niggas and all dat bullshit, we wanna hear niggaz spit dat real shit:
hustlin crack
old skool cars
big booty hoes
staying fly
getting high
So save dat "I have a dream" bullshit fo da next nigga, cause I'm to ignorant to know what u tawkin bout in da ist place shawty. Real tawk
@ Bird
I mean what I mean and you know what I mean. I am a THOROUGHBRED nigga. THat is one that won't back down from nothing, it's in my genes. When I see that there's something wrong I'll speak my mind on it. That's what I mean, and putting people in their place is what I just did to you. Sohh what now homeboy? get your bird ass, feather wearin ass up out this blog.
GYANT YOU AFRAID TO PUT UP MY POSTS? WHY DON'T YOU RESPOND TO IT?
DJ OKTOBA FLY AS I CAN BE!!
**I think that DJ Oktoba is an angry old man, what's wrong with you? get a life and talk like a man your age. I checked out your profile and you look old as hell and still have pictures of pin up girls that you'll never meet or get with, c'mon man-don't play yourself!**
TSHaygood 203
wattup to snifferus and OG Geno
"you can tell a real nigga from a fake a mile away for hating on yola like that. People talk and act like that because that is what they live everyday. if someone is stupid enough to imitate it trying to be funny and it comes off wrong,they deserve to get dealt with. Poverty, poor education, the baby mama epidemic, underage parenting, and failure to vote are some of the real important issues tearing up the community and you waste my blog time and say "maybe if we listen to kanye and andre3000,we can make a change".
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is the selfish irresponsible attitude that has lead to this discussion. Our music has always been a voice and common language for our people. Black music used to GIVE hope not TAKE IT AWAY! So even if you are living the shit you rhyme about you still have an obligation to the fragile troubled listener to not glorify and sensationalize the struggle. But to speak of a better way and positive alternatives to street life.
Our selfishness is really whats holding us down. No one (INCLUDING MOST BLACKS) wants to take on the responsibilty of reaching back to help those that are still suffering from the long-term effects of slavery. Sometimes we can be just as bad or worst thatn the oppressor. Some of us feel like we've made it and would rather IGNOR and even look down on the ones that really do need help our until we get knocked off of our high horse and reminded that we're ALL BLACK!
We're a community divided and its always someone else's problem and responsibility. Thats why nothing is being done because WE aren't doing anything about it ourselves!!
STOP WITH THE SCRIPTED BULLSHYT!!!
WE ALL KNOW THAT BITCHES, HOES, CRACK, FIENDS, PIMPS, FREAKS, AND ALL THAT OTHER SHYT EXISTS IN ABUNDANCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE ELSES. IF YOU DON'T THINK SO YOU ARE A YOUNG UNEDUCATED PUNK WHO DOES STAY ABREAST OF NATIONAL LET ALONE WORLD ISSUES.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE OF A SELFDEGREDATION ISSUE THAT ANY OTHER RACE.....
HELL I KNOW A 100% AUTHENTIC CHINESE NATIONAL WHO SPEAKS OF PIMPS, PROSTITUES, AND DRUGS AND CLASS DESCRIMINATION IN HIS COUNTRY.....
SO WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? YALL BEEN KICKIN THIS WEAK SHYT SINCE NWA DROPPED. GO GRIPE AT THESE HARD ROCK MUTHAFUKAS WHO ARE SPEWIN THIS SATANIC AND VIOLENT SHYT THAT GOES OVER YOUR DUMB ASS HEAD CAUSE YOU DON'T EVEN LISTEN TO THEY SHYT!!!
THEN YOU RUN AROUND LIKE YOU GOT SOME KIND OF PERSPECTIVE ON THE WHOLE PICTURE WHEN YOU JUST FOCUSED ON 1 PIXEL ON THE SCREEN. GET YOUR MIND RIGHT BLOG DUDE WHOEVER THE FUK YOU ARE
I mean what I mean and you know what I mean. I am a THOROUGHBRED nigga. THat is one that won't back down from nothing, it's in my genes. When I see that there's something wrong I'll speak my mind on it. That's what I mean, and putting people in their place is what I just did to you. Sohh what now homeboy? get your bird ass, feather wearin ass up out this blog.
GYANT YOU AFRAID TO PUT UP MY POSTS? WHY DON'T YOU RESPOND TO IT?
DJ OKTOBA FLY AS I CAN BE!!
Posted by: DJ OKTOBA 4 PRESIDENT at April 18, 2007 10:29 AM
I really didn't understand what you meant and I see you are unable to explain it to me which then makes me wonder how you sound when you speak your mind. That's ok brotha. I really wish the best for you.
@ To DJ Oktoba and others..
Please don’t have selective reading on this topic. I didn’t say that he wasn’t wrong. What I said is I don’t think he should have been FIRED!!!! And the reason why he shouldn’t be fired is because the BLACK community uses racist, sexists, and misogynistic remarks on a daily basis. And if were gonna check Don Imus, then we NEED TO CHECK OURSELVES!!!!!!!!!
I was very clear in my delivery to this matter. I read my post at least 8 times and let other people from the hip-hop industry read it and they all agreed. So I’ll ask you to read it again.
Sorry for the long response but I was at the gym, getting my work out on!
I love Hip-Hop, but we can no longer deny that we have problem!!!!
-SoHH Gyant
To DJ Oktoba and others..
Please don’t have selective reading on this topic. I didn’t say that he wasn’t wrong. What I said is I don’t think he should have been FIRED!!!! And the reason why he shouldn’t be fired is because the BLACK community uses racist, sexists, and misogynistic remarks on a daily basis. And if were gonna check Don Imus, then we NEED TO CHECK OURSELVES!!!!!!!!!
I was very clear in my delivery to this matter. I read my post at least 8 times and let other people from the hip-hop industry read it and they all agreed. So I’ll ask you to read it again.
Sorry for the long response but I was at the gym, getting my work out on!
I love Hip-Hop, but we can no longer deny that we have problem!!!!
-SoHH Gyant
Give me a break...
When are we going to start giving out real accountability...
Don Imus got fired b/c the $$$$$$ were up for grabs - CBS don't give a shit about what he said - they cared about how people reacted....
Imus has a right to say what he wants to say and CBS has a right to fire his ass - that freedom thing rides in 2 directions...
And blaming hip hop ain't gonna make the clan put away his sheets - a racist is a racist - fuck that! Take credit for that shit and stop trying to cop out.
As least I KNOW Snoop can be a PIG - dude broght two women to the awards on leashes - and my beef ain't 100% with Snoop - these women (and I use that term loosely) were happily wearing that muthafucking leash! And smiling and shit...
As a woman - anything I do is a direct reflection of the things I do - if was stealing I would be a theft, if I was killing I would be a murderer and if I am walking around on leash I am a dumb bitch
www.sohhoverit.com
MAN GYANT...
WHEREVER YOU SUPPOSED TO BE FROM YOUR GHETTO PASS IS OFFICIALLY REVOKED!!!!
THAT DG YOLA FLOW WAS FIRE!!!
ONE-HUNNID!
Gyant:
You know I love you like the Underground in a Saturday night but there is such a thing as freedom and then there is fucking up on your job...
Imus got caught slipping...white man forgot where the hell he was and said that shit out loud - that's the issue. I don't mind you being a racist, sexist - manpig - but I ain't gotta listen to your shit and guess what...
I didn't even have to switch the channel - CBS did it for me - freedom is a bitch in 4 inch Stiletto's
Gyant:
You know I love you like the Underground in a Saturday night but there is such a thing as freedom and then there is fucking up on your job...
Imus got caught slipping...white man forgot where the hell he was and said that shit out loud - that's the issue. I don't mind you being a racist, sexist - manpig - but I ain't gotta listen to your shit and guess what...
I didn't even have to switch the channel - CBS did it for me - freedom is a bitch in 4 inch Stiletto's
Supahead and Nas Baby Mama:
Screwing, sucking and telling - then acting like they did not have any other choice - these women are like drug dealers with some of that bullshit excuses- I couldn't work at McDonalds - yeah yeah so giving head was the option out or tip drilling on videos was THE ONLY WAY!
Yeah right...women giving men all the power and the blame dont sit right with me and agaig Don Imus gets no pass - no matter how much I say anything don't give you - a grown ass man - to say it when you know the shit is bull shit.
That basketball team was NOT in any hip hop video...
So Don Imus greets all black women as "Hello Nappy Headed Ho" -BULLSHIT!
@GYANT
Apparently Gyant really is just a "blogger" and not a "journalist". If he was he would have done his research and found out that Mr. Imus is not a first-time offender. He is a "repeat" offender. You can only get probation so man times before you get a real sentence, and corporate america just locked is ass up!
Gyant, "YOU" are dismissed...
@gyant
If you read the shit 8 times why is there still typos dumb nigga good job on calling out Matt Herbz ole cracka ass and you working out don't impress us dumb nigga how bout you stay on your job and answer oktoba after he O.D'd on you
GYANT:
Well said homie.
BTW DC Yola is the W.O.A.T. (wackest of all time).
First off everyone needs to start taking responsiblities for there own actions. Stop blaming hip-hop for the way others act. Lets start going after the parents. Second, Imus got what he deserved for making a stupid comment, but he has said far worst in the past. What took so long? Now lets bring up something else. Are yall familar with the DUKE LACROOSE CASE. Tell me now that those kids (who are all white and come from wealthy familes) had rape charges against them for over a year, ruined the lives, but when the smoked cleared they had nothing on them. What should be the punsihment to the young women who made these aligations. Everyone was so quick to defend the "poor black girl that had to strip to get through college b.s. story."They have evidence that she has done this before also. (Made an aledge rape claim). They offered to pay for a 4 year degree for her before they had any of the right info. Honstley this whole world and society makes me sick. Everyone both black and white are full of shit and we do as American is cry cry cry. Its 2007 and look at the conversation we as young people still deal with. FOR SHAME!
Really it is irrelevant that Imus got fired. What does it change? Will white people or any other race or culture stop making derogatory comments when they want to? I don't think so. Hip hop is not the problem either. At the end of the day in order for black people to solve our own problems and get some long over due respect in this world the following things should happen (in no particular order):
1. Black Men - At least CLAIM all of the babies you help make outside of marriage. Maybe then we won't have another generation of children growing up hating our guts because we were absent from their lives.
2. Black Men and Women need to display a genuine respect for one another. For some odd reason we do not get along more so than any other race in this country. . .And I love black women.
3. Young Black Men - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE graduate high school. Better yet, raise your reading level to the point where you can pass a standardized test. I know they are biased but trust me if you address your reading problems school won't be as bad as you think it is. No one is saying go straight to college. The truth is college isn't for everyone. One can arguably have a better networth with a tech school degree than someone who has a Ph.D. If you do drop out get your G.E.D., and get into some type of Job Corp program. Don't sleep job corp is a legitamate come up.
4. Support Black Businesses - If we want to keep money circulating in our community we have to spend it on ourselves. (FACT - in 2005 African Americans controled three out of every five dollars spent Atlanta, GA!) Three out of Five! That's 60% of the money we control in this city! That's why they call it the Black Mecca! But the sad part is we spend the money to every other culture in the city. South Dekalb ain't seen none of that.
5. Black Entrepeneurs - Establish a business worthy enough of black people (or any people for that matter) to spend their hard earned dollar! No one wants to feel like their being hustled all the time. Quality service will bring about a legitimate profit. Try it, it works.
Sorry for the long post. These suggestions will not solve all the problems in our community, but its trickle down effects will give us a hell of a start.
Do you know what I wish more then anything for my readers and for my people in general? I wish we could stop ignoring the issue. I posted a serious topic, on something that is seriously destroying the hip-hop culture and most of you are completely missing the point. And do you know why you’re missing the point?
It’s because you’re choosing to not see the point
The Professor -missed the point
Future –missed the point
DJ Oktoba (one of my favorite commenter) –missed the point
Way2savage- missed the point
The list could go on but I haven’t the time. Y’all have a good day!
-SoHH Gyant
The fact is this, WE NEED TO STOP BLAMING OURSELVES WHEN SOMEONE FROM ANOTHER RACE INSULTS US. Ya'll sound like the girl at a party that got raped but blames herself because she wore a short skirt and thinks she encouraged the attack.
Hip Hop isn't the only form of music that uses profanity or the N word. How much violence and profanity are in movies? The Departed won picture of the year last year and it contained the N word and all kinds of other profane language and killing. How come no one is blaming the Departed for the comments that Imus made? Cause it makes no sense. Just like blaming HipHop for his racist insult makes no sense.
Our so called leaders are wasting their time discusing the negativity in HipHop. They need to attack the real issues that we face, like the fact that some schools in poor neighborhoods are still underfunded and don't have enough books and still don't have computers. Forget what's in a damn rap song, they need to focus on somethin real.
I don't understand why "hip-hop" is under attack. I personally think there is a difference between hip hop and rap music. rap music is meaningless and talks about the downfall and destruction of our people, black people. hip hop is a culture a positive culture that uplifts our people. rap is what people think selling crack is good to our people. killing them. you might as well be a fucking klansman. glorify the main causees of death to the black american male. crack, guns, robbing.saying you are the best rapper. its not a competition dumbasses. its about uplifting. and the first thing a dumbass would say is blacks don't bring that stuff over here. but you sell it to one another and brag about the money you made off of it in a positive light. now if I killed your mother or father and bragged on how I did it and said I got paid for it would that make any since. no but majority of the rappers have made a reference on how they did by selling drugs. don't look at it as selling crack and robbing making money, but look at it like they killing our future leaders. lets live black people, and stop with the hip hop shit. rap music is in control now. lets bring hip hop back
@GYANT
I didn't miss the point. I've posted about the issue in on other blogs all week. I merely commented on the fact that you disagreed with the firing. That was something you stated in your entry, and that's what I choose to comment on. You say that people missed the point, but may you didn't convey one properly? Maybe you should take a step back and examine why so many of your readers are adamant about getting you fired.
Dismissed...
props for dis blog!
Sohh Gyant
You may have somewhat of a point, but even if you took away every rapper that raps about negative realities in the black community, our children would still be infected with those images. They are still going to see the the dope boy with the fly ride that catches all the women. Rappers just capitalize off of it.
and another thing black people. its ok to put money towards your future and you kids future. lets stop buying mess to make us look stupid. cars, rims, expensive clothes, jewelry. it means nothing when you die. but your kids future should. make it rain in your kids college fund.
This is useless. We can't even have an intelligent discussion on this issue. We got black men calling themselves thoroughbred niggas. I'd bet cash money you could find that exact couple of words in slave auctions. Yet this black man says it about himself on a blog for the world to see. Yet if Imus called him that, we're supposed to get mad about it? Clearly this dude is proud of his exemplary slave status. No house nigga work for this dude. He's ready for the field. He can pull the plow with the best mules. Why can't a white person acknowledge this wonderful attribute he boasts of? He is what these rappers and video gilrs represent. Self degradation marketed to the masses. There is a severe illness in our community and we don't even see it.
Shut up Gyant/ what people in the hiphop industry did you let read your corny blog? and why did you have to read it 8 times wtf?stop always trying to pretend you are in the "inner circle" pathetic
make it rain in your kids college fund.
Posted by: barry at April 18, 2007 12:06 PM
LOVE IT!
He is what these rappers and video gilrs represent. Self degradation marketed to the masses. There is a severe illness in our community and we don't even see it.
Posted by: Bird at April 18, 2007 12:09 PM
So what does Imus represent? Def not the rappers, he ain't Black,
I know just say - I white racist sexist pig - thank you.
Just want someone to acknowledge the main point.
STOP WITH THE SCRIPTED BULLSHYT!!!
WE ALL KNOW THAT BITCHES, HOES, CRACK, FIENDS, PIMPS, FREAKS, AND ALL THAT OTHER SHYT EXISTS IN ABUNDANCE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE ELSES. IF YOU DON'T THINK SO YOU ARE A YOUNG UNEDUCATED PUNK WHO DOES STAY ABREAST OF NATIONAL LET ALONE WORLD ISSUES
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You see we are so busy living our lives based on what others are doing and on standards set by someone else, instead of identifying our needs and working together as a community. IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T NOTICED WE ARE NOT LIKE OTHERS AND DEFINITELY AREN'T RESPECTED AS A PEOPLE BY OTHERS.
These days the music and other media outlets have replaced the parents in many households. So entertainers do have way more of an influence than they realize or want to admit. Black people can't afford the luxury of simply leaving it up to the parents because a lot of the parents really DON'T KNOW THEMSELVES. These posts have proven my point...we are a diveded community that refuses work together for the better of us all and pick up where our incapable brothers and sisters have left off. Everything is always the next man's problem.
Yo.. I gotta cosign the first comment left by KSH about giving out real accountability & Eastpoint ATL's comment. That was real talk! I totally agree!
So what does Imus represent? Def not the rappers, he ain't Black,
I know just say - I white racist sexist pig - thank you.
Just want someone to acknowledge the main point.
Posted by: KSH at April 18, 2007 12:12 PM
I really don't know if Imus is racist. I don't watch or listen to his show. I know shock jocks will say anything for ratings and it doesn't necessarily represent their actual views, but if you say he is, ok. I'm gonna have to take your word for it. Now what? I don't care about Imus. Our kids are not his market. I care about the state of our community which is in pretty bad shape as you can see by these ridiculous comments. Are you really ok with women shaking their nearly naked asses in videos? Are you ok with rappers bragging about selling drugs and killing each other? That is the question.
If all whites started acting like niggers do ( not Black people,but niggers, there is a diffrence), America and Europe would crumble because neither country can support a population thats full of substanceless bullshit. One portion of whites get poisoned by the other (crack, coke, heroin), while the other portion steps on each others head to "make it", only to die once they have 'too much money' in someone elses eyes so he can be the new top dog. Wake the fuck up and quit this damn minstrel show thats being fueled by assholes who would be on the street rambling made up words if Rap wasnt profitable to whites. Sad but true.
They say the black race need to respect themselves before they can ask other races to. I am a black male and I do respect myself and I am sure there are alot of other black men and women who respect themselves as well. So it is not like you have an entire race going around disrespecting themselves. Yes we have some within the race that do disrespect themselves but don't every race have them individuals that make the race look bad. Also because we have those individuals that gives other races the right to disrespect every single person in the race. We have bad apples just like any other race. Every race have something negative that they are known for and if you need me to break it down I will. Every race have bad people in them that do not respect themselves so do that give me the right to disrespect every other race because they too have bad seeds in them and they also have not come together as a race. So why should we have to do something that no other race has been able to do becuase I do not know any race that doesn't have someone that is disrespecting themselves. Also I keep hearing that until black people stop using the "N" word then no one should have to stop calling them the "N" word. I could be wrong but didn't whites start calling us the "N" word first before we new anything about the word so you expect me to believe that if every single black person stop using the word everyone else will stop using it as well. I think not. And last I would like to address the "me to" syndrome you mentioned above. Have anyone ever heard of "enter at your own risk". That is the approach I am taking because the media is saying that 14,15 and 16 year old white boys are listening to hip hop and they are bascically doing the old monkey see monkey do meaning everything we do they do. All I can say is be prepared to deal with everything that goes along with using that word because it only takes one time of being in the wrong place and using it around the wrong person and next thing you know there parents are trying to pay this $10,000 medical bill because they have gotten the shit beat out them because you do not know who is going to take offense to it or not. I have a homeboy who is hispanic and he uses the term "wet back" to his cousins but i would never use it because I am not hispanic and I do not know nor will i find out how they would take to me using it. They might be okay and accept it or I might have to defend myself. Regardless I am not going to find out
@ Gyant
Ok, I understand what your saying about policing ourselves and to stop degrading ourselves on record. Where I see a problem is that it's really not on the artists. Plenty of artists are making good music that doesn’t degrade the black community, but how many spins on the radio do they get? How many records are the selling? How many times is there video being played on BET and MTV??? If I’m an artist, and rapping is my job and I need to get paid, I look at Common and Young Jeezy . . .both of these guys put out great music, both of these guys are real talented, but they are rapping on totally different subject matters. Jeezy is doing platinum numbers, and Common is struggling to go gold! Which direction do you go? It’s that simple. I really feel like it’s not the lack of good music or lack of conscience in rappers. It’s the fact that we aren’t getting/giving enough exposure to acts that aren’t negative, and if you’re a new artist, it doesn’t seem like a good career move to be conscious. I mean, if you play basketball and the NBA wants you, but you got an option to go to the CBA team that’s in your home town. Who would really go to the CBA? Your in Toronto and you play football and it’s the NFL or Canadian football . . . would anybody really WANT to play in Canada if they had another option? This is the situation if you are a hip hop artist in today’s market. You can be conscious, but it’s like your in the minor league, and who wants to waste there time or talent in the minor league if they don't have to?
@ OPEN YA EYES
what in the blue hell are you talking bout with this "giving hope through music" crap. Music is entertainment. If you want to "give hope", then vote to get some parenting and budgeting money classes, and encourage voting in your community. DG Yola or any other rapper isn't "socially responisble" for impressionable youths. Their parents are. Sounds like you want change and im with you on that but "subliminal messages thru music" aint the answer.
@ Bird
That wasn't me homie you just don't frequent this Blog everybody on here knows how I feel about the word Nigger, and cowardly a$$ Cracker's who use it Blogs to redirect the focus of the truth!!! No beef homeboy I ain't nobody work horse STR8 UP...
If you haven't learned it's not hard to post under somebodies name and IP address... Matt you are a Racist or too ignorant to know it punk BITCH!!! Fake A$$ Mr Boston
@ Gyant
You know I read all these blogs but I get passionate about these issues simply because I'm tired of all this media proganda and bullshit, and racist a$$ rants that they are wanting us to simply overlook... My views and opinions are mine just like yours are yours and you obviously did read my post half way because I said that you would say what you said...
But don't get it twisted I am in the music indusry annd I know how bad "RAP" has gotten but this issue is not about hip hop and thats what Imus tried to say...
Picture this... A man shots a cop and blames it on hip hop does that make him a racist??? NO!!! That makes him a liar people don't know the truth they just go with the majority's opinion...
I hate when people are backed into a corner and try to dry snitch or lie and thats all Imus did, thats all Mikkkal Richards did, and thats all the other punk bitches(WNM07) did
DJ OKTOBA IM STILL CHILLING
You know, I'm still riding high about being called out in this blog! Me and my white niggas tried to school the black niggaz a while back, but our favorite senile DJ missed the point back then, much like he missed today's post's point. He's an angry thoroughbred nigga and he refuses to acknowledge his own part in the downfall of the black race. He embraces the stereotypes such as hatred for the white nigga, strip clubs, all the ass-talk about being an entrepreneur when you ain't did shit... I could go on and on, but the point has been made--
A WHITE MAN CAME ON YOUR HIP-HOP SITE, CLAIMED THE WORD "NIGGA" FOR HIM AND HIS HOMEBOYS, AND THE BLACK MEN GOT MAD THAT HE WAS USING THEIR WORD.
Like I said, do you really feel a need to hold on to the blessed N-word as something uniquely black? It's 2007, niggaz, we got to make forward movements.
IF A DUMB CRACKER OR HONKY OR FROSTED FLAKE COMES IN HERE AND WANTS TO TAKE YOUR WORD, NIGGA, THEN GIVE IT TO HIM.
YOU SHOULD STOP CALLING YOURSELF THAT, ANYWAYS. Consider that squashed, stepped on, old news, etc...
Now, I'm not the one to say whether or not Imus should have been fired for using that description, but the public, white and black spoke up and action was taken. I'm not missing any meals because of that nigga... So, how about we all just get along, get high, fuck bitches, stack chips, and keep progressing into the future. Being hung up on a word like NIGGA is slowing your advances.
GET REAL, MY NIGGAZ--WHITE AND BLACK!
p.s.--fuck an Indian Nigga and a South Korean Nigga, them niggaz is bitches.
@ Bird
That wasn't me homie you just don't frequent this Blog everybody on here knows how I feel about the word Nigger, and cowardly a$$ Cracker's who use it Blogs to redirect the focus of the truth!!! No beef homeboy I ain't nobody work horse STR8 UP...
If you haven't learned it's not hard to post under somebodies name and IP address... Matt you are a Racist or too ignorant to know it punk BITCH!!! Fake A$$ Mr Boston
Posted by: DJ Oktoba 4 President at April 18, 2007 1:05 PM
Whew!! Thank you for clearing that up my brotha. You are right I rarely post or read the Atlanta, Houston and Latin blogs so I am not familiar with the players.
You indeed sound like an intelligent brotha. I'm just trying to join the dialog on the overall problem in our community in which rap admittedly plays a very small part. I want to stop hating these brothas and sistas who are doing a poor job of representing our community as a whole. I am willing to have an open dialog with the people they actually do represent as I admit my views have been very rigid up until this point. A hip hop blog may not be the venue for such a dialog because we it seems we aren't reaching each other.
Matt, your a fuckin clown. Your gonna feel stupid as hell once your 18 and tryin to get a job in some size 40 dockers. That shits ok in highschool, but seriously, your mom and run-away dad really fucked up if your still talking that shit once your 20.
@ Random
I'm 25 and CEO of The White Nigga Movement. Pick the peanuts out my shit, nigga.
Oh ok, so your just dicking around. Kind of a wack way to kill time though dont you think?
@ Dwayne Austin
...research black music history and you will find out that black music was one of the strongest vehicles of hope for our people during the civil rights movements. It's easy to just dismiss it as only entertainment but believe me, its much more than that!!! thats why its so valuable to outsiders. And yes you are right we should vote and what not. But the point that you're missing is that we already posess the power and outlets that are needed to make positive changes. If we turn it over to the gov't then we will still have to abide by someone else's standards. We can take control NOW ourselves by being responsible for more than just ourselves.
You come on here talking about the N word,but go around saying cowardly ass crackers.You fucking faggot,you can't fight rascism with rascism.What makes you think it's ok to say that shit.I can't wait for the day a black leader is caught making blatant rascist remarks,so his ass can get dragged through the mud as well.Al Sharpton's days are coming.That man is such a fucking whore for publicity it makes me sick.
@ Bird
...okay ive read all of the comments (the good the bad and the WTF) and one thing u said i need clearity on and thats the one where u said about liking to hustle cause the risk factor. you cant be serious, u can think a man enjoys risking his life and freedom for some change is fun or something done by choice cause if thats the case all the drug dealers that turned hustler would still be doing it right or wrong? and this is coming from a factual point of view of someone who HAD to do what he had to to survive.
the comments about imus not being fired??? gyant i gave up on you cause your views are bogus it wasnt the nappy headed ho comment that was the straw that broke the camels back, and like one blogger said it was the sponsor that really lead to the decision.
do black people need to change there mind frame? mos def but that will take time just like black people saying jesus was black that wasnt the case there was black people saying oh no he's white, oh no we aint from africa we americans, in time things is gonna change.
how?
individual responsibility. i know a lot of black people that dont use the N word nor disrespect the black woman but we allowed the media to say this is us and how we should act. its a small amount of us ignorant to think we are niggers and our women are hoe dont get it twisted, black people are not just in america. we need to teach the youth thats misguided and stop blaming hip hop, cause just like the VT massacre no one blamed grindhouse.
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
I agree with SOHH Gyant (to some degree). I am a hip-hop fanatic, but this situation has made me review my life and what music I listen to. I'm having an internal war: a) Imus and other people can't say that kind of shit b) If I listen to this derogatory language in music and use it myself, how can I chastise someone else for doing the same?
If this situation hasn't made you question your taste in music and how you as a person verbally communicate, YOU NEED TO GROW UP.
I'm appreciative of this entire situation, it has made me THINK. It has made me question my own morals and beliefs. Sure Imus has made numerous derrogatory statements, but so have MOST rappers (and they do it on a 90 minute cd).
Like Gyant said, we are being hypocrites, which is just how things are sometimes. Regardless of who says what, it's wrong. Regardless of what you see, hear, or grew up around, we should be trying to improve our race, class, economy, culture, children and future. We tend to idolize negativity and not speak enough about the positive. I've heard every story about a broken home, never before seen dad, growing up poor, living in the hood, selling drugs, and everything else. Why are we perpetuating these situations by glorifying them? Anybody that lives in the hood and doesn’t want to get out is an idiot.
I'm a college graduate, soon to enroll in a Doctorate program and currently working full time. I didn't grow up poor, my parents were married, etc... I DO LISTEN TO RAP. I LOVE RAP. But it's hard to continue to support something that has such a negative image. I LISTEN TO RAP FOR ENTERTAINMENT. I wouldn't do most of the shit rappers talk about. But we need to think about the kids and teenagers that don't know any better. We need to concentrate on bringing a positive image.
Should rappers stop cursing, using the “N” bomb, using racial and homophobic slurs, and speaking about women so negatively??? I don’t know. But how can we crucify someone else for doing it? It just seems like a double standard. And it’s a copout. To tell you the truth, a lot of rappers just talk about stuff they have heard, not shit they have done.
What is the point to all of this? I don't know. Like I said, I’m having an internal war...
@NG
If I listen to this derogatory language in music and use it myself, how can I chastise someone else for doing the same?
If this situation hasn't made you question your taste in music and how you as a person verbally communicate, YOU NEED TO GROW UP.
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dude your telling me that you dont watch violent movies beacuse u wont beable to chastise someone for being violent?
or you wouldnt watch a movie that have the N word in it cause of the same reason? lets be real dude, I LOVE HIP HOP and listen to all the N this N that B this and B that but i CHOOSE not to use the words. damn all them D12 dudes around eminem u mean to tell me he dont hear them saying nothing negative about there race? do he say the N word in his Albums?
where all smart enuff to know whats right and wrong
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Kanye uses the word nigga, and hoe, so i mean what can u say about that
That is the selfish irresponsible attitude that has lead to this discussion. Our music has always been a voice and common language for our people. Black music used to GIVE hope not TAKE IT AWAY! So even if you are living the shit you rhyme about you still have an obligation to the fragile troubled listener to not glorify and sensationalize the struggle. But to speak of a better way and positive alternatives to street life.
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Thats partially true
We do need the negativity too
Its a healthy remainder of whats going through the minds of our youth.
A window into how fk'd up some of the mantalities of our next generation are.
Rap does not dictate reality
sorry it doesn't, its a reflection of an attitude and mantality thats already there. You don't need a soundtrack to kill someone. In the hood murder is an Impulsive act most of the time. When its happens its a heat of the moment act. No ones recylcing hate into the hood, its already there. Its just hearing it on record that makes others outside of the environment shocked.
Raps not to blame its showing whats already going on in the minds of the kids on your streets. We are America's dirty laundry and society wants us to go back and sweep it under the rug. Thats why want and end to rap. They feel it makes the country look bad globally. Its not the image they want portrayed to the world. They don't care they just want it controlled.
@SOHH GYANT
Its like I told you Black people from the inner city DO NOT WANT TO BE CONFRONTED ABOUT THEIR OWN SHT!
I agree with them only on if you want to take a stand start by not supporting those that make that type of music.
But your point is still valid
They don't want to Hear it!
and Imus should have been fired
him getting away with similar offenses before is not a valid defense.
If your a jackass 364 days of the year and someone finally confronts your still a jackass and your still wrong and deserve all applicible actions associated with the offense you made.
You don't get a pass for getting away with it for so long, thats bullsht
@Brooklyn B
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What the hell are you talking about? I said how it is hypocritical for me to use that language and get mad when someone else uses it.
If you read the comment, you would have seen that I said, it is an "Internal Struggle". I'm not making excuses for Imus, rappers, or movies and I'm not trying to diss them. All I'm saying is that this situation caused me to analyze myself. And it made me think about the things that I say, that are helping to perpetuate negativity in our community. So, THAT MEANS THAT I PROBABLY USE SOME OF THE WORDS, BUT THIS INCIDENT IS MAKING ME RETHINK THINGS, AND PROBABLY DO AWAY WITH SOME OF THE LANGUAGE I USE.
If you think we should give you anything you are out of your fucking mind, If you can suffer the way black people have suffered since the 1600's!!! Than you can have that word if you can raise a black child like he is your own and nuture and teach him then you can use that word until you do something in the community to help out somebody other than your 25 year old live with your Mommy~aunt a$$ then you can use that word... It's not hard How about this We gone start the Colored Cracker Movement (CCM07)
Then we can all get along fuck some white bitches, go to Pink Pony, or Mardi Gras Huh??? Then we could all get along??? Is that all t takes RETARD???
FUCK THAT!!! Stop trying to use this blog as your personal blog or you can start the WNM Blog you and Lucky can be the memebers, y'all will be the 2007 Village People... Hahahaha
If you have a problem with me I ain't hiding and you ain't riding...
DJ OKTOBA IM STILL CHILLING
PS If y'all don't get it by now i'm gone keep working on it!!!
@NG
aight, its a internal conflict your having, the point im trying (and maybe i didnt come across clear) to make really is how would you be hypocritical? if your trying to stop smoking see your son smoking a cig and tell him dont smoke it its bad your not being a hypocrite. u know what im saying, that same fight i done fought son, u get accustom to say nigga and bitch but u have to re program your self not to say it, but in the mean while u can still check the youth or your kids and tell them not to say it.
you hear what im saying or it still dont make since?
BROOKLYN STAND UP!!!
Hip hop has it's problems no doubt, but IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IMUS! Just b/c we say inappropriate things to each other doesnt make it right nor does it justify Imus saying it. Truth is the white media is trying to blame all of society's ills on hiphop and that is plain bullshit. Nancy Grace of CNN is trying to tie the fact that the VA Tech shooter used a Glock 9 to 50 Cent using one in his movie. GTFOH! Pastor Troy is being blamed for a fool killing two cops b/c they said he was listening to Murda Man before he did it. WTF? The attack on hip hop is blatant and overt and people need to say some shit and let it be known that we see this propaganda for what it is and wont continue to let it be spread.
why talk about the downfall of the black american race thru music though. and glorify the profit. do rappers really need to brag about the destruction of our people. reality or not. white people don't glorify the destruction of their people. they actually look down on the users and the dealers. the price of our race is worth more than the cheap ass prices these glorifying rappers rap about. if you love black people stop supporting the music that speaks about how these bitch ass rappers(north, south, east, west)destoyed our people to get where they are. now hate on this comment.
I'm cosigning Gyant on this one. Whites and Asians are getting a real bad case of the "Me Too's" when it comes to using the "N" word. And I do believe it's partly because of what we're selling to them. They want to be us so they're starting sound like us. Think about it.
Posted by: Heroin at April 18, 2007 8:12 AM
no^^^^ its all on us whits and others say nigga cuzz we dont check they ass i dont give a fuc how cool we are dont say that word are im going to slap the pinkness off your face...
Posted by: barry at April 18, 2007 2:11 PM
I want your sayin about braggin.
But if you come from a crab in a barrell environment. Your gonna bring that mantality into whatever you do.
If drug dealin is what you know what you experienced. What are you supposed to make problack Talib Kweli music.
Seriously 50 doesn't know his father and his moms was shot and killed and she was a drug dealer and he grew up in his parents basement and sold drugs too. Whats he supposed to talk about.
If you want to change the content of the music. Change the reality of the Artist. Take a more proactive role in the community. Parents do a better job of raising your kids. And then you'll have more Kanye's, Lupe's, Commons, Mos defs and Talibs Kwali's. But as long as everyone's pointing fingers shts gonna stay they way it is. Fck'd up!
You can ask those artist to be more honest and stop glorifying it, show some regret about their environment. But to change the subject matter is just bullsht. Their not profiting from the downfall. Their not contributing to it. That mantality is already there. No one needs theme music to rob shoot or kill anyone. That's a product of proverty, neglect poor parenting abuse not the music. The music is a reflection of the minds of those kids in the streets. Their anger and aggression realities and nightmares. Changing the music won't change the crime rate when proverty guns and drug are imbedded in the community. Remember Crack was a problem in Los Angeles before Dre dropped the chronic. Richard Pryor and Dolomite was sayin Nigger in the 70's. The music is not the problem
excuse the typo in the first line
I meant
I hear what your saying about braggin
IF YOU WANT ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE ON HIP HOP AND ITS SOCIAL RESPONSIBLITY THEN CHEK OUT
THIS STORY CALLED "THE HIP-HOP SIDE STEP"
@ OPEN YA EYES
As far as hip hop being valuable to outsiders and being more than entertainment, you're right. its money.
Also, what you mean when you say
"we already posess the power and outlets that are needed to make positive changes. If we turn it over to the gov't then we will still have to abide by someone else's standards"
the government is about to take over hip hop? i dunno where you going but I wanted to stay on gyant's topic where he said to stop supporting artists who arent socially responsible. Like i said before, Yola isn't socially responsible for what these "impressionable" youths listen to. Their parents are.
Long time reader first time poster. I personally agree with Gyant as far as Imus keeping his job as long as adequate punishment was issued. The reason I say this is because of exactly what is occuring now, everyone wants to censor everyone, now specifically hip hop artists. thing is these people have the right to express themselves how they see fit, as long as it is in a venue that is suitable, Imus did not have the particular venue to state the things he stated, if that was the case rap records would be aired uncensored on the radio. I use whatever words I want to and am prepared for the consequences of using those words. We are Americans and are lucky enough to have freedom of self expression. Many people appear to be thin skinned and are ready to separate themselves from members of thier own race to feel less self conscious around white people, when they should really work on social issues in the black community that would provide blacks less of a reason to use words to degrade themselves.
@ banga
true indeed but these same rappers that glorify that don't do that anymore. they put out the message its cool destroy our people to get ahead. what about the babies from the hood that make it to college, make it to be doctors, make it to be leaders. are they sell out the was faced with the same struggle, and they made it. they applied theirself to make it, and not fall victim. why don't rap about giving back I know they give back. maybe because it won't sell but the talk about death of our people will. oh and I really don't like none of those rappers you named. I from the eastside decatur, ga. I like my southern rappers I just think they have the platform to speak out. hell if I had a producer and the time I would rap about uplifting our people. we to fucking smart to be labeled by what they are putting out
wow, art.....
One more thing, hip hop is entertainment, in most cases you have to eat the meat and toss the bones. if everything was meant to be taken in literal terms, all movies or tv shows would be documentarys, all books would be nonfiction, all portraits would be of fruit baskets, mountains and sunsets and music I guess would be what many of these idiots think, reality.
@ Random:
Yeah, it can be wack typing shit on here sometimes, but it sure beats the heck out of fucking your mom and having another fuck-up son like you.
Next...
@ DJ Oktoba:
The Colored Cracka Movement is not a movement that is officially sanctioned by the UN (United Niggaz). Like I told you, big daddy, you can have the word cracker for it does not pertain to me, nor does it insult me. In fact, I was munching on some oyster crackers yesterday sitting in the white leather seats of a white jaguar XJ, while a white bitch was sucking my white dick making white cum shoot out in her white-toothed mouth. My shirt was white, too, for the record. That cracker shit is funny, homey.
You ig'nant my nigga...
You're mommy told me I could be anything I wanted to be. I wanna be a nigga!
Congrats
whoa whoa whoa!!!! dont overrate kanye on some social concious shyt. he go both ways on shyt, he aint no solution. srry jus had to state that. ery now and then he make a positive track but thn thers otha shyt that can derogatory and then therz kanye da actual person who says da most ignorant shyt. so yea i jus had to make that clear.
but wen sum1 big enuff is willing to lead hip hop towards another it mite happen but rite now no it wont. trynna turn rap around suddenly is like trynna pull troops out iraq(no disrepect). in both scenarios we need a new leader taking over and that leader need to have ppl that want to move wit him and not hate him like society does to everyone thatz doin it big.
if things need to be turned around i say just start dropping dudes and stop working with them. that way therz a split in between that stuff when alotta ignorant artists hav to really strive on ther own witout da help of some huge record label like interscope.it will make rappers choose whether to go legit or really "keep it street" like they claim.
@DJ Oktoba 4 President
This Matt Herbz guy gets a kick out of fucking with you, and you always let him get to you. The guys fucking funny as hell...it the internet man!
@DJ Oktoba 4 President
This Matt Herbz guy gets a kick out of fucking with you, and you always let him get to you. The guys fucking funny as hell...its the internet man!
In case you all didn't know, Imus didn't get fired for the "Nappyheaded Ho" comment. He got fired because all of the advitisers on his show started pulling their ads. MSNBC was losing a grip of money so his ass went too.
Hip Hop needs a big change and the 1st one is to get rappers that have subject matter. If you don't do that, then I rather lean and rock, on stop, lock, and roll. or whatever it is....
Posted by: barry at April 18, 2007 2:55 PM
Its not that simple
Its easy from the outside to have that perspective. But seriously how much do we support artist with a positive message. How much do labels support and get behind those artists. That issue is far more complex than just change what they talk about and say. Labels go with the flow so if Gangster raps sells thats who their gonna sign and get behind. Being signed is a once in a lifetime opportunity and your not signed based on talent anymore or your message. Your signed based on marketability that what you see in the industry today. Artist with messages are told to compromise their music to sell records all the time. You gotta make ends meat and you probably got kids too. You can't have a black and white mantality about hip-hop artist.
Not only does their back ground play a role, the payola in the industry also plays a role in the type of music in heavy rotation. Its not a accurate representation of the entire culture.
Most Artist are as just as check to check as you are. And they have to play the Corporate ladder game too. The only difference is their the product and the employee. Its complicated and layered. They have control but to a degree. They can dropped from their label for weak sales, if you have a core fan base you can only tamper with the product your selling but so much without losing em.
Second you can only talk inteligently about what you know. Im not trying to make artist out to be victims its just not that simple.
and No ones calling educated black people sellouts. Thats a sounds like a personal issue you have. Alot of people are so fkin out of tune with Hiphop culture and young black youths yall assume sht without talkin to us.
Yeah some make it out, but everyones different not everyone's built the same and able to overcome their adversity. If someone defys the odds thats not ammunition against those that can't. Its not fair to judge everyone the same when some hills are steeper than others. Especially when considering the way crack has destroyed so many black families. You don't know everyones family backgrounds or lack there of to be that judgemental. And using 50 as and example wasn't about the artist. The point was looking as his life what do you expect. Is it fair to ask someone of that background to speak intelligently about something else.
We do need to check ourselves but we need to be realistic too. Leaning on labels and artist will censor the language but not the subject matter.
The real problems in our own neighborhoods, its not the music.
Im am so tired of people using rap as a scapegoat for all of americas problems and mistakes. don imus said what he said because he was a racist. he didnt listen to a rap cd one day and think that was okay. his thoughts he chose to express were probably deep rooted from upbringing. and why are his comments just now coming to light? hes been saying idiotic and racist things for a while. people knew this was the perfect opportunity to point the finger at rap music and blacks. and rap music is a form of entertainment. if you dont like it, cut off the tv, radio, or dont buy the disc. the b word, h word, a niggas been out wayy longer than rap has. people need to quit frontin like this is some new slang we came up with. movies, television, and even some of those self righteous anti rap activists and political figures degrade women, and themselves with things they do and say. they need to stop saying that rap is so influential on kids. it may be in some ways, but the parents need to step it up and be the biggest influence on their kids, and stop blaming rap and tv for their missteps and irresponsibility. its anybodys duty as a parent or guardian to explain to their kids that rap is not all real talk, and there are things in it kids shouldnt do or say. play your role people.
@ banga
I apologize to keep draggin this along but, man are you sticking up for the rappers who glorify the money they made selling the same shit that someones mother or father died for. yes the white man may bring that shit here but should we distribute that shit to our own kind, and put on wax how good the money is in it. knowing that the shit kills people. our people. and why should we settle for those companys swaying us to put out that image. for money. far as I'm concerned the klan bought that shit here told us how to cook it and asked us to sell it to ourselves because it would be easier than them just killing us off. we will just eventually fade away. its in the streets true enough. I see it everyday. but should it be glorified for the world to hear? its not crack is in the hood and killing us(hip hop). its crack is in the hood and I'm getting rich(rap music)
I see it everyday. but should it be glorified for the world to hear? its not crack is in the hood and killing us(hip hop). its crack is in the hood and I'm getting rich(rap music)
Posted by: barry at April 18, 2007 5:18 PM
Whats the difference between them sayin on the block and on a record
I ain't supporting sht but they have a right to express themselves regardless.
What they say should be motivation to fix the problem. Not to point fingers and tell em to bite their tongue, that doesn't solve sht. Their still thinking it they just can't say it. The mantality is still there. Censoring the artist hasn't solved sht! The music is not the problem. And if it wasn't for the music you'd have less of a clue why the murder rate in your hood is so high. Why so many sell drugs and are on that sht. Im more interested in artist challenging them selves to diversify their content and not spend so much energy glorifying it. Spend less time talkin about trifling women and more songs about the good ones. Balance it out. And we do need to stop using Nga but censoring them is not the solution. You really want to censor them, fix your neighborhoods! I ain't supportin any self destruction but focusing on censoring Hip-Hop music won't change sht on your block! Because of that is not going to change the experiences of these and tommorrows artists nor their content. How many rappers say the streets raised me! Think about it. We all need to check ourselves across the board. If more chicks were raised right and not so superficial and materialistic there'd be less music about b's and ho's. I see no excuse for Nga. Except it used so often alot of people pick it up, its still wrong.
And artist need to diversify their music. But there's more factors at play
you can't be so judgemental. If that the only type of artist labels are looking to sign. Its not that cut and dry
Im more interested in artist challenging them selves to diversify their content and not spend so much energy glorifying it.
my point exactly.
This is my 1st time actually commenting on this blog, even though I read it all the time. To quote Jay-Z, "Lyrically I wanna rhyme like Common Sense, (but I did 5 mill), I ain't been rhyming like common since". These artist use Rap(Hip Hop), to feed their families. Some of them don't have the education, or the work experience to live the life of the prominent "Black Leaders" or the "Status Quo". So I'm not mad at them for doing what they do to provide for their families. The fact of the matter is, is that there are hoes and bitches, and pimps and drugs in the community, that's not the only thing, but it's what you hear on the radio and see on the videos. So is it the rappers fault 4 gettin money? Or would you rather see them adding to the crime rate? Or better yet lets take all of them and give them a Mickey D's uniform! Don't blame Hip Hop! Hip Hop didn't make Don Imus say that! If you don't like the music turn it off, or better yet, go buy the conscious rappers, request their music on the stations! Taking food out of the mouths of "Rappers" and their families won't solve the problems that blacks face in America. Each one teach one! It starts inside each and everyone of us. We need to start raising our kids instead of putting them in front of a T.V.. If we change as a people (which will probably never happen) but maybe then the music will change. Music only reflects the views of what's going on in the world, whether good or bad!
I'll try to make this brief. Why are so many Blacks apologists for white behavior and inappropriateness? It baffles me that through the historical treatment of Blacks by whites that Blacks some how lets white America steer the question of morality and uprightness back towards the Black community. I wholeheartedly agree with Imus firing due to the fact of his repeated history of offensive comments on public airwaves. Because in Tim Hardaway’s case he was arguably treated worse for his comments against Homosexuals, by the NBA and the Business community. Moreover, the Imus’ comments went beyond “Nappy Headed Hos”; other derogatory language was also used such as “Jigaboo” and so forth. Many people would like to blame Hip-Hop for the use of such widespread profane and derogatory language, but to entirely blame it is unjust and suspicious. How can censorship of Hip-Hop stop the widespread use of these words? They existed before Hip-Hop and they’ll continue to exist so long as racism, vulgarity, ignorance and bigotry exist. If the Black community wishes to entirely ban such profane language amongst themselves than that requires the collective efforts of the Hip-Hop generation as well as the older generations that have helped to spawn and ingrain these words in today’s vocabulary, It shouldn’t be guided by the endorsement of White America, Conservative America and or Liberal America.
You know the difference between whites saying nigger and Blacks saying it? Amongst Blacks it’s a matter of profanity and inaptness….we shouldn’t say it because of the derivations of such words and because it’s wrong. I think it should be put with other profane words because of its inappropriateness. With that being said, when whites say it, it becomes “racialized”, the question of racism and bigotry are raised because of the racial implications, being that its no longer internal decadence, it’s an external group engaging in the decadence which is furthermore unacceptable. I’m not defending the usage of these kinds of words, but we need to draw lines of distinction, because we all know its not the same.
To offer my own criticism of Hip-Hop, I would like to see more rappers get involved both musically and physically in the social & political dilemmas that affect the Black communities. The intelligence and awareness that these rappers possess is not always depicted by the media and by themselves…they need to show this as well. So the element of social consciousness needs to reach the airwaves of the Mainstream, and the rappers need to contribute to this as well.
Its funny to me that it only took imus one sentence to turn black ppl against each other.
Im more interested in artist challenging them selves to diversify their content and not spend so much energy glorifying it.
my point exactly.
Posted by: barry at April 18, 2007 6:53 PM
I was stating they can still say whagt their already sayin but it shouldn't be the only focus of the entire album.
Your purposely taking my point out of context.
Hot to Death
When men stop being men, and go playing army instead, the women and kids become victims of violence blood red
the boys try to play the part of men, and they fail, sometimes ended in jail, or worse,
so we lower the bar of expectation and glamorize the hearst, as if its cool to be killed to be on a R-I-P t-shirt
we clap and smile at rape and violence as if its an accomplishments, drug dealing and killing become badges of honor to our detriment.
yall rappers and adults really think this is cool? we done reversed the world and made rape and gun play the new rule. And turned life wreckin into sport., here here man watch scarface go shoot a gat and snort.
Some of these older cats is fucxin scum bag mother fucxers, should know better but nothing to live for so they drag down the others, even they own little brothers. To their level backwards ass thinking, that what they see on BET videos is really really whats pimpin
Like growin up poor is an excuse to be a lowlife, turn to criminal acts just because some shit aint go right
and rap ni66as preachin death over a hot azz beat, as if the hot beat soothes the poison that’s entering the mind and streets
Ni66as get killed and the grave yards filled, and then we say the enemy is the 5-0 blue shield???get real. The enemy is within,….. and its us, …..where is the soul of the community and the elders we used to trust
The church used to be the voice in the community but no more, now they the ones that victimizin the poor,
poor in mind mostly, they’d rather build mega churches with a mini mall attached than approach me, or those young just like me, do you think another church service or offering plate will change this? Not likely.
Whos the hardest, whos the sickest, whos the one that sold the most dope and sprayed the most lead. His prize is the blank eyes of the millions whos souls are dead. Who’s gonna win the race to the grave for the sake of devlistic simplistic genocide hop musick, his prize is that he’s dead, and then he’ll get a graffittid up wall in his honor and of his choosing.
Until the last moment when there are no more guns, coke, weed, hoes, cars, threesomes, gangbangs, left.
The rapper that comes out on top after all this will be HOT >>>>>>TO>>>>>>>DEATH
Hip Hop has lost its soul
it was different when Nas came out with Illmatic, Biggie with ready to die, Goodie MOB with Soul Food, OutKast with Aquemini, etc. etc.
they talked about the whole picture, yeah the violence, and the repurcussions of the violence, they talked about being fathers, lovers, brothers, someones son (even if they aint there) and on and on, they also used language that showed remorse for the dirt they did, and reflected on Gods forgiveness, and how they showed the complexities of wanting to grow as a man in urban America,
this latest stuff coming out is just pure and simple coon music, simplified, non intellectualized raw aggression without a purpose or a soul behind it, killin for the sake of, and pushin weight just because, no rhyme or reason behind it.
these guys are unlikeable, whereas the artists that captured the fullness of the struggle made you like them because you knew them, they were you or one of your friends.
how many friends you got now that push 100 keys a week from Pablo escobar in Columbia or go to a club to recieve twn woman poppin ecstacy and rollin your dope for you and all sharing your johnson in turn?
Even if you did, so what? That aint life and its shallow/
the open materialism and blind violence thats celebrated is just becoming nmot only redundant (you can look that up) its becoming lame and its birthing a sub cultrure of absolute talentless artists and ignorant fans that support them.
I am convinced that alot more of these dudes need to experience having a child, more specifically a girl child to understand how cool this shyt is not.
Even the production and concepts have gone out the window.
A song is number one based on who is releasing it without thought of content or actual artistic excellence now days. I dont even turn the radio on anymore.
we want the next generation of black and latin people to be bred on this mentality?
what the f%^& is wrong with us, and where are the men leaders at to put this house in order and make these little fall back.
I guess Nas is trying al ittle, but he's weak with his. Lip service is weak, we need some militant Public Enemy black panther type leadership in this music to readdress the lacking spiritual and intellectual laziness that has cencered this music and community.
It just plain sucks now,
PS and I hate back packers too, and back packer hip hop music. Its ineffective hippy hip hop music and doesn't say a thing either. Most of those artists are a bunch of oreos and arrogant uppity house negroes anyway. They are all waiting their turn to be the next Black Eyes Peas.
Just my opinion, but we need artists like Cube back in the game to make that militant conscious gangsta music, we need OutKast and Goodie MOB to get their shyt back together and start making that hardcore street church music again, and this includes Cee-Lo who has damn near sold his soul to be some european star ina wig. He needs to take off the Halloween costume and realize he has a voice to use to awaken people not be a minstrel show for uppity dudes in San Fran and London in this Knarles Barkely BS.
We need the real artists to show back up and we need the kids to shut up and listen for once instead of running their mouths before they even know how to piss straight and shave their face, they done already sold 600 keys and killed the mayor of evfery city.
sick of the BS that ruined our music man.
sick of it.
when it comes to the women saying that hip hop is degrading, isnt it the women responsibility to say NO to these videos out here that are degrading them. no one is making them jump in front of the camera and shake their ass while the rappers are in the background calling them bitches and hoes right?
if you go back to 1996 I have a the source magazine where rappers and ceos are all saying hiphop is in need of a change. listen to hate me now. you will hear nas talking about the same jewelry, money and cars. that dude just free styled that. stop hating. im an educated brother so we as a people need to take responsibility for our actions and stop blaming hiphop and any other forms of entertainment becasue that's all it is, is entertainment. not to say i support calling women bitches and hoes becasue i don't but rappers dont put a gun to anybody's head and make them go and call women bitches and hoes. it all starts at home. if we are going to blame somebody blame the parents whose kids know the full verse and dance to walk it out but cant read or make an A or B to save their lives. people its time we stop blaming others and take responsibility for our own actions. besides if it wasnt supported by us then it sure wouldnt get as much airtime as it gets. everything always comes back to us the consumer. don't say rappers have a responsibility to any of us becasue they don't. as a young kid i knew right from wrong becasue i knew my mother would whip dat ass. there are so many different angles to take on this argument. you have videos hoes that are really hoes then you have ones that are really doing it as a means to an ends. if rappers stop doing what they are doing even the ignorant ones its going to hurt in one way or another. we can't listen to common or nas downsouth at a party. but we can't listen to yung joc when you wanna sit down and just chill. i support all these brothers becasue they arent selling drugs and killing the community.